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The Terror Timeline: 2nd Edition
Posted by: shark99987 (IP Logged)
Date: December 6, 2005 06:51AM

My Recommendation's for a possible 2nd Edition of the Terror Timeline
1. New & Expanded topics:
-7/7/05 London bombings, which Mohammed Atta's father praised []
-Fall 2001 anthrax attacks (Flight 93 hijacker Ahmed Alhaznawi, 20, had cutaneous anthrax)
[], []
-9/21/01 Toulouse chemical factory explosion []
-More Flight 587 details []
-More details on Shah/Khan, Azmath, & Dr. Alhazmi (see "September 11 (K)" at
-more details on the Bukhari brothers
-Iran Timeline
-Able Danger [] efore_9/11=ableDanger, []
--new information revealed by 9/11 Commision & 9/11 Joint Congressional Inquiry
-any new items that come to light
2. Debunking sections:
-Debunk WTC demolition theory, [], [], [], []
-Debunk no-757 @ Pentagon theory [] , [], [] boeing&zu= [], [], [], [], [], [] , [] , []
-Debunk Mossad-perpetrated-9/11 theory [], [], [], [] , [],
-Debunk living hijackers theory []
-Debunk remote control planes/Home Run theory [], []
-Debunk fake phone calls theory [], [], [] (Barbara Olson call)

3. Color photos of:
-hijackers inside the U.S. (security videos, etc.) Atta/Alomari, Moqed/Hanjour []
-hijackers in martyrdom videos (Alomari, Alnami, Alhaznawi, Alghamdi)
-2nd Abdulaziz Alomari [], 2nd Majed Moqed [], 2nd Ahmed Alhaznawi, 2nd Khalid Almihdar [], 2nd Salem Alhazmi []
-Saeed Alghamdi in Chechnya
-Hanjour's visa photo
-Salem Alhazmi's driver's license
-Shah/Khan and Azmath
-Khalid Almihdhar's license
-Ahmed Alghamdi's Virginia ID
-Ziad Jarrah in gym

4.Corrections and Clarifications:

pXIV Michael C. Ruppert's timeline is not "excellent;" it's full of errors and lies which Bill Herbert [] and David Corn [], []

p29 The 10/24-26/00 Pentagon drill did not cover a *hijacked* airliner as you claim; see [] and [].
Ch2 "Insider Trading and Other Foreknowledge" Insider trading is far from a proven fact. The volume of trades was not exceptionally high [] , it was a good idea to sell AAL shares because AAL had just announced a string of bad news [] , the most likely explanation of the unclaimed $2.5 million is not sinister [], A.B. Buzzy Krongard left in ***1998***, and there are good reasons to doubt the CIA and put options link claim (such as why the alleged conspirators would use a bank that could be easily traced back to them) [], 9/11 foreknowledge is not the only explanation of UAL put options sales [], and the claim that trading patterns prove 9/11 foreknowledge is as of yet unsubstantiated [] .
p45 The Robert Baer intelligence was not actionable with respect to 9/11; see Herbert#5 at [].

p53 The 9/10 Pentagon officials' cancelation of 9/11 flights does not entail 9/11 foreknowledge; see [].

p66 See this nonconspiratorial explanation/analysis of the Willie Brown warning. []

p81 The Carnivore glitch deleted suspects, not confirmed bin Laden colleagues. Monitoring innocent people could have caused legal trouble for the FBI.

p82 Silverstein was not referring to a demolition of WTC7 when he said "pull it"; see [].

p99 The July 2001 Ashcroft story is not as sinister as conspiracy theorists would like you to think; see [].
p104 "Bomb-sniffing dogs removed" The book should note that since "extra" security was lifted, the WTC security was at normal levels, and not below-normal levels, and that not all bomb-sniffing dogs were removed [] . "Today was the first day there was not the extra security," Coard said. "We were protecting below. ****We had the ground covered. We didn't figure they would do it with planes. There is no way anyone could have stopped that.****"

114,117 For another angle on the Julie Sirrs story see [] .

p121 In May 2001, you state that $43 million was given to the Taliban, "purportedly to assist hungry farmers ..." "Purportedly" -- what else would it be for? Also, the entry does not mention that the funds were channeled through the UN and not given directly to the Taliban by the USA.

p183 The 9/11 Commission has taken a position on when Hanjour entered the U.S. for the first time; the 9/11 Report said that he took an English class in Tuscon in 1991, but not 1990 like your book says. See 9/11 Report p225n55.

p204 On the hijackers drinking and partying at strip clubs: it is not unusual for religious men to break the rules from time to time, especially on the last night they know that they will be alive. From The Rotten Library: Atta has been associated with a sect called Al Takfir wal Hijra, run by al Quaeda second-in-command Ayman Al-Zawahiri. This is an extreme fundamentalist sect, however...

"A major element of Takfir religious practice is subterfuge. The threat of Takfir is that its cold, heartless killers could easily be the boy or girl next door. Takfir Wal Hijra members are permitted to disregard the injunctions of Islamic law in order to blend into infidel societies.

In other words, Takfirs can have sex with loose women, drink alcohol, eat pork and do whatever else they feel is appropriate to advance their mission...

Mohammed Atta, although puritanical in his behavior, was believed to be Takfiri. He's not the only al Qaeda operative you could point the finger at. Ramzi Yousef and Khalid Shaikh Mohammed went to discos, drank alcohol and dated call girls. Yousef in particular is renowned for being generally unIslamic and non-observant of prayers and fasting. Although no one has suggested openly that Yousef and KSM were Takfiri, it's hardly a stretch".

The Terror Timeline 2e should mention this.

p221 Conspiracy theorists have taken Coleen Rowley's statements out of context; see [] .
281-282 Robert Wright's investigation was closed in 1999, not 2001 [] as David Ray Griffin claims.

p307 See this non-conspiratorial angle on the ZIM story []. Quote: "Odd, really, because this is starting to look very inconsistent. Zim had enough "forewarning" to move out months in advance, Odigo got a message sent to the wrong place that didn't identify the target, only a couple of hours before the attacks, and ClearForest didn't get a warning at all. Clear proof of Israeli foreknowledge? We don't think so."
p307-308See this nonconspiratorial analysis of the Odigo warning [].

p333 Conspiracy theorists interpret the PNAC quote to mean that PNAC predicted a New Pearl Harbor; this is not the case. See [] .

p358 An entry says that Lewin was stabbed or shot on "Flight 77" instead of Flight 11. Other pages in your book describe the possible shooting on Flight 11, but it is unlikely for several reasons. From the 9/11 Commission:

25. An early draft of an executive summary prepared by FAA security staff for the agency's leadership referred
to an alleged report of a shooting aboard Flight 11.We believe this report was erroneous for a number of reasons--
there is no evidence that the hijackers purchased firearms, use of a gun would be inconsistent with the otherwise common tactics employed by the hijackers, the alleged shooting victim was seated where witness accounts place
the stabbing victim (9B), and, most important, neither Betty Ong nor Amy Sweeney, the only two people who
communicated to the ground from aboard the aircraft, reported the presence of a gun or a shooting. Both reported
knives and stabbings.
AAL transcript, telephone call from Betty Ong to Nydia Gonzalez, Sept. 11, 2001; AAL tran-
script, telephone call from Nydia Gonzalez to Craig Marquis, Sept. 11, 2001; AAL transcript, telephone call from
Nancy Wyatt to Ray Howland, Sept. 11, 2001; Michael Woodward interview (Jan. 25, 2004).The General Account-
ing Office looked into the gun story and was unable to corroborate it. GAO report, summary of briefing re inves-
tigation, Aug. 30, 2002.

p372,380,413 It would not have been practical for the fighters to travel faster than they did for long periods of time, at such speeds cited in your book as 1100mph, 1300mph, 1500mph, and 1850mph. See [] and the posts by Bonkedproducer, qwerty1, mike, rdexter, and mokbubble at [].

p404 The bin Laden--CIA official meeting has been discredited; see [].

p428 9:41 A.M. My second cousin Marion Britton's surname is incorrectly spelled as "Birtton."
p439 The Edward Felt story has been discredited; see []. This claim cannot be used as evidence that Flight 93 N591UA was shot down on 9/11.

p447 Flight 93 "Before 10:06 A.M." The 10:06:05 Flight 93 crash time has been discredited; see the 9/11 Commission: "168. Ibid., pp. 23-27.We also reviewed a report regarding seismic observations on September 11,
2001, whose authors conclude that the impact time of United 93 was
"10:06:055 (EDT)."Won-Young Kim and G. R. Baum, "Seismic Observations
during September 11, 2001,Terrorist Attack," spring 2002 (report to
the Maryland Department of Natural Resources). But the seismic data on
which they based this estimate are far too weak in signal-to-noise
ratio and far too speculative in terms of signal source to be used as
a means of contradicting the impact time established by the very
accurate combination of FDR, CVR, ATC, radar, and impact site data
sets.These data sets constrain United 93\'s impact time to within 1
second, are airplane- and crash-site specific, and are based on time
codes automatically recorded in the ATC audiotapes for the FAA centers
and correlated with each data set in a process internationally
accepted within the aviation accident investigation community.
Furthermore, one of the study\'s principal authors now concedes that
"seismic data is not definitive for the impact of UA 93." Email from
Won-Young Kim to the Commission, "Re: UA Flight 93," July 7, 2004; see
also Won-Young Kim, "Seismic Observations for UA Flight 93 Crash near
Shanksville, Pennsylvania during September 11, 2001," July 5, 2004.;
[]. There no comments as of yet from dissenting seismologists.
p493 For an explanation of the wide Flight 93 debris field that does not theorize that Flight 93 was shot down, see [].

p493 Satam Al Suqami's recovered passport is not suspicious given many similar
recovered items on that day such as Lisa Anne Frost's United Airlines
Mileage Plus card [] , the bound hands of a stewardess, and at the site where Flight 93 crashed into the ground at 500mph a wedding ring and other jewelry, photos, credit cards, purses and their contents, shoes, a wallet and currency [] also, as mentioned in your book, there were reports of hijacker corpses and rows of passengers on 9/14/01 [], []. Your book should also mention that Abdulaziz Alomari's passport was found.

p493 "Series of circumstances" said to make flight calls possible. Is the implication here that the calls were fake? The calls were not fake; see [] and []. See also [] (Barbara Olson call).

p495 On the alleged military training of the 9/11 hijackers: There were more than 1600 Saeeds and 200 Alghamdis at Pensacola Naval Air Base, none were terrorists, and training foreign nationals is not unusual, the hijackers' Arabic names very common, and several "Saeed Alghamdis" attended that school [] . The Egyptian Mohamed Atta named by the FBI would not have time to be a "former Saudi Airforce pilot," because he was predominantly in the following places in the following years (9/11 Commission, Inside 9/11: What Really Happened by Der Spiegel Magazine):
1968-1992 Egypt (Cairo)
1992-1999 Germany (Hamburg)
1999 Afghanistan (at a Kandahar al-Qaeda camp)
2000 Germany
2000 USA
2001 USA

Therefore, it is safe to say that the Mohamed Atta who attended Maxwell Air Force Base in 1998 was not the Egyptian hijacker/pilot named by the FBI. The hijacker Saeed Alghamdi named by the FBI was only 21 and based on the account of his life would not have had time to be a Saudi Airforce pilot, either.

p496-498 "People With Hijacker Names and Identifying Details Are Still Alive":

Atta: Atta's father accepts that Atta is dead; Atta did not call his father on 9/12/01. []

Abdulaziz Alomari: The hijacker Abdulaziz Alomari is dead according to his family; the other Alomari is older and looks quite different.
-Waleed M. and Wail Alshehri: Waleed M. Alshehri and Wail Alshehri are dead and were brainwashed according to brother [], and the brother Salah is a very reliable source because he has firsthand knowledge. The pictures of missing Alshehris from Asir in Saudi Arabia match those from the FBI PENTTBOM report. Both men became very religious prior to fighting in Chechnya; a man named Waleed A. Alshehri is alive [] and living in Casablanca, Morocco but this is not the same person as Waleed M. Alshehri. There are also reports that spell the name as Alshri, but this is not Alshehri. Previous reports that Alshehris were sons of Saudi diplomat have been denied

[]. The Alshehri brothers were missing 10+ months before 9/11
-Salem Alhazmi: The living Salem Alhazmi working at a petrochemical complex in Yanbou was 26 at the time he was interviewed in 2001 and Salem Alhazmi named by the FBI was 20 or 21 when 9/11 occurred. The living Alhazmi
has never been to the USA
[] , so it's obviously two different people, as the one named by the FBI had a Virginia driver's license. Not to mention he was on the Dulles security video.
-Ahmed Alnami: The living Ahmed Alnami 10 years older than dead terrorist Alnami; 33
from Riyadh [] vs. 23 from Asir
[] .
-Khalid Almihdhar: The Khalid Almihdar named by the FBI is dead; there's no family claiming he's alive, no Almihdar
protesting his innocence, his status on FDIC was rightly called a typo
[], and the BBC report [] only mentions "suggestions that he may be alive" which falls far
short of proof. The man on the far right in this photo [] is probably the Almihdhar who was reported shortly after 9/11 to be alive.
-Saeed Alghamdi: The hijacker Saeed Alghamdi is dead; it was a case of mistaken identity
and the BBC report [] and reports of living hijackers are thoroughly debunked by Der Spiegel
[] .
-Saudi Arabia has accepted that 15 of the 19 hijackers were Saudis,
contradicting claims that the named hijackers are alive and innocent.
-The 13 muscle hijackers named by the FBI pledged martyrdom in videos in March 2001, and Ahmed Alnami, Hamza Alghamdi, Saeed Alghamdi, and Wail Alshehri were filmed studying maps and flight manuals, saying that America is the enemy. There are frames from the al-Qaeda video showing:
1. Saeed Alghamdi
2. Ahmed Alhaznawi
3. Abdulaziz Alomari
4. Ahmed Alnami
5. the rest of the 13 muscle hijackers

p506 bin Laden Video Released, "Authenticity Questioned"
This video shows Osama bin Laden himself and not a double or impostor . Al-Qaeda took responsibility for 9/11 numerous times. There have been 16+ explicit post-9/11 claims of responsibility for 9/11 by al-Qaeda,
bin Laden, etc. following his 9/16/01 "denial," (p495-496) [] but these are omitted from your book:
-10/7/01 Osama bin Laden []
-10/9/01 Suleiman Abu Ghaith
-10/14/01 Osama bin Laden []
-10/27/01 Suleiman Abu Ghaith
-2/02 Osama bin Laden []
-4/02 Ahmed Alhaznawi and other 9/11 hijackers these martyrdom videos contradict the claim that the hijackers are still alive, their identities were stolen, etc.,11209,685127,00.html
-9/10/02 Osama bin Laden and others []
-9/02 Ayman Al Zawahiri []
-10/02 Ramzi Binalshibh and Khalid Shaikh Mohammed []
-3/03 Osama bin Laden []
-9/21/03 Abu Muhammad al-Ablaj []
-8/04 Abu Jandal []
-10/30/04 Osama bin Laden []
-9/12/05 Adam Gadahn []

p507-508 Conspiracy theorists like to claim that the recycling of WTC steel prevented a proper investigation, and perhaps indicates that the WTC was demolished with explosives, but this is not the case; se [].

p508-509 Thierry Meyssan, whose book "9/11: The Big Lie" is rightly called "apalling conspiracist trash" by Chip Berlet, besides claiming that Flight 77 N644AA, a Boeing 757-222 did not hit the Pentagon on 9/11, says government complicity is required to explain why Flight 77 was not hit by the Pentagon's missile batteries on 9/11. Meyssan's charges have been debunked at [].

p541 Your entry on page 541 states that Palestinian footage was faked/taken out of context. This is false; see [].

p558-559 You must distance yourself from David Ray Griffin. Your entry should mention that Griffin's theories have been thoroughly debunked by Chip Berlet of Public Eye [] and Mike Wallace of 911Myths []. I recently purchased a copy of "The New Pearl Harbor." Griffin repeatedly lies and promotes the lies of Jared Israel, Thierry Meyssan, Jeff King (PlaguePuppy), Illarion Bykov, Nafeez Mossadeq Ahmed, Barrie Zwicker, Gore Vidal, Christopher Bollyn, Michael C. Ruppert (author of Crossing the Rubicon and I believe the upcoming book The Truth and Lies of 9/11), Michael Meacher, Michael Moore (recommended book: Michael Moore Is A Big Fat Stupid White Man, which discusses Moore's movies like Fahrenheit 9/11 and Moore's books like Dude, Where's Country?), Michael Chussudovsky, Peter Meyer, Dick Eastman, Jim Hoffman (, and Gerard Holmgren. He also relies on the uncorroborated assertions of Niaz Naik (see "Niaz Naik and the Carpet of Bombs" at []) and Scott Forbes (see "WTC Power Down" at [].)

"9:00A.M.* ... False Radar Blips Purged from Radar Screens" Conspiracists claim that false radar blips confused and delayed any response to the hijackings, ensuring they would succeed. This claim is not supported by evidence; see [].
There are problems with the "war games" story that should be taken into account/mentioned for "The Day of 9/11" entries; please visit [].

The NORAD standdown claim is unsubstantiated; see [] and [].

Hani Hanjour DID have piloting skills necessary to fly Flight 77 into
Pentagon, as he had many hours of flying experience and had a
commercial pilot's license, and was said to have the necessary skills
by his instructor [].

5. Iraq:
In order to be balanced, your book should mention the positive changes the U.S. has brought upon Iraq: Over 400,000 kids have up-to-date immunizations.
School attendance is up 80% from levels before the war.
Over 1,500 schools have been renovated and rid of the weapons stored there so education can occur.
The port of Uhm Qasar was renovated so grain can be off-loaded from ships faster.
The country had its first 2 billion barrel export of oil in August.
Over 4.5 million people have clean drinking water for the first time ever in Iraq.
The country now receives 2 times the electrical power it did before the war.
100% of the hospitals are open and fully staffed, compared to 35% before the war.
Elections are taking place in every major city, and city councils are in place.
Sewer and water lines are installed in every major city.
Over 60,000 police are patrolling the streets.
Over 100,000 Iraqi civil defense police are securing the country.
Over 80,000 Iraqi soldiers are patrolling the streets side by side with US soldiers.
Over 400,000 people have telephones for the first time ever.
Students are taught field sanitation and hand washing techniques to prevent the spread of germs.
An interim constitution has been signed.
Girls are allowed to attend school.
Textbooks that don\'t mention Saddam are in the schools for the first time in 30 years. -- from
6. Appendix entries:
-hijacker dates of birth, places of residence, nationalities, and aliases from PENTTBOM

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